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		<title>Childern in &#8220;Rainbow Families&#8221; are ok</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came across an interesting article. Below I put a  fragment translated by me, original article (in German language) and link to it.
A new studies from Germany shows that children raised in &#8220;rainbow families&#8221; have no disadvantages. Four years ago a German Justice Secretary &#8211; Brigitte Zypries (SPD) &#8211; commissioned an assignment for Bavarian National [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=zalbarath666.wordpress.com&blog=1047226&post=46&subd=zalbarath666&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><strong>I came across an interesting article. Below I put a  fragment </strong><strong>translated</strong><strong> by me, original article (in German language) and link to it.</strong></p>
<p>A new studies from Germany shows that children raised in &#8220;rainbow families&#8221; have no disadvantages. Four years ago a German Justice Secretary &#8211; Brigitte Zypries (SPD) &#8211; commissioned an assignment for Bavarian National Institute for Family Studies (Bayerischen Staatsinstitut für Familienforschung)  on the Bamberg University and National Institute for Early Pedagogy (Staatsinstitut für Frühpädagogik) in München. [...]</p>
<p>In German examination were asked 700 Parents and 100 Children, who live in registered partnership. Thus the sample was more then sufficient;  in Germany altogether 2200 Children are being raised in homosexual partnership marriages.  The result is:  <em>&#8220;Child well being in rainbow families is protected in the same way as in other forms of families.&#8221;</em> There is no differences between parents in partnership or in heterosexual marriage. There has been no clues for increased tendency for depression. <em>&#8220;Child well being doesn&#8217;t require upbringing in classical model of different sex parents&#8221;</em> refers a scientist. Moreover the majority of children have no experiences with discrimination  of their parent&#8217;s sexual preference.  [...]</p>
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<p>Eine neue Studie aus Deutschland beweist, dass Kinder in Regenbogenfamilien keine Nachteile haben. Die deutsche Justizministerin Brigitte Zypries (SPD) hatte die Untersuchung vor vier Jahren beim Bayerischen Staatsinstitut für Familienforschung an der Universität Bamberg und dem Staatsinstitut für Frühpädagogik in München in Auftrag gegeben.</p>
<div>»Heute ist ein guter Tag für alle, die auf Fakten statt auf Vorurteile setzen &#8211; gerade bei weltanschaulich besetzten Themen«, verkündete die Bundesjustizministerin in Berlin. Ihr Fazit: »Dort, wo Kinder geliebt werden, wachsen sie auch gut auf. Entscheidend ist eine gute Beziehung zwischen Kind und Eltern und nicht deren sexuelle Orientierung«. Die Studie belege »auf wissenschaftlich fundierter Grundlage, dass Familie dort ist, wo Kinder sind«.</p>
<p>In der deutschen Studie wurden rund 700 Eltern und 100 Kinder in befragt, die in Eingetragenen Lebenspartnerschaften aufwachsen. Damit sei die Untersuchung »überrepräsentativ«, da insgesamt nur 2.200 Kinder mit Eltern in einer Homo-Ehe in Deutschland aufwüchsen. Ergebnis: »Das Kindeswohl ist in Regenbogenfamilien genauso gewahrt wie in anderen Familienformen.« Es gebe keine Unterschiede zwischen Eltern in Lebenspartnerschaften und Eltern in einer (heterosexuellen) Ehe. So fänden sich keine Anhaltspunkte für eine erhöhte Neigung zu Depressionen. »Für das Kindeswohl ist es nicht erforderlich, dass die Erziehung nach dem klassischen Rollen-Modell von verschiedenen Geschlechtern gleichermaßen übernommen wird«, so die Forscher. Zudem verfügte eine Mehrheit der Kinder über keine Diskriminierungserfahrungen wegen der sexuellen Orientierung der Eltern.</p>
<p>Zypries fordert bereits seit längerem das Adoptionsrecht für Lebenspartner. Derzeit dürfen Homosexuelle in Deutschland zwar einzeln Kinder adoptieren, eine Adoption durch ein Gay-Paar ist aber in Deutschland verboten. SPD, FDP, Grüne und Linkspartei sprechen sich für die Gleichberechtigung von verpartnerten Paaren in der Frage des Adoptionsrechts aus, lediglich die Union lehnt dies mit Verweis auf das »Kindeswohl« ab. Zypries will erreichen, dass die Gleichberechtigung in der nächsten Legislaturperiode Gesetz wird.</p>
<p>In mehreren Interviews hat die deutsche Justizministerin am Donnerstag erklärt, dass sie eine Gleichbehandlung von (verpartnerten) Schwulen und Lesben erwarte. Allerdings weist sie darauf hin, dass es zehn Mal mehr adoptionswillige Elternpaare als Adoptionskinder gebe. Auch wenn nur wenige verpartnerte Paare von Adoptionen profitieren könnten, sei eine Gleichberechtigung in dieser Frage dennoch wichtig, erklärte sie im Deutschlandfunk: »Der wesentliche Punkt ist erst mal, dass wir mit den rechtlichen Voraussetzungen eine der formalen Diskriminierungen von homosexuellen Paaren noch beseitigen.«</p>
<p>Der Lesben- und Schwulenverband in Deutschland (LSVD) zeigte sich von den Ergebnissen der Studie nicht überrascht. Es habe bereits viele Untersuchungen im angloamerikanischen Raum gegeben, in denen nachgewiesen wurde, dass Schwule und Lesben dem Kindeswohl nicht schadeten, erklärte LSVD-Sprecherin Uta Kehr – und appellierte an die deutsche Regierung: »Beenden Sie die bestehenden Diskriminierungen von Regenbogenfamilien im Familienalltag! Schaffen Sie ein Recht auf Familiengründung, unabhängig von der sexuellen Orientierung!«.</p>
<p>»Kinder wachsen bei zwei Müttern oder zwei Vätern, also bei Regenbogeneltern, genau so gut auf wie in anderen Lebensgemeinschaften. Für das Kindeswohl ist es nicht erforderlich, dass die Erziehung nach dem klassischen Rollen-Modell von verschiedenen Geschlechtern gleichermaßen übernommen wird. Maßgeblich ist vielmehr eine gute Eltern-Kind-Beziehung unabhängig vom Geschlecht der Eltern «, so Peter Traschkowitsch, Bundes- und Wiener Landesvorsitzender der SoHo (Sozialdemokratie und Homosexualität).</p></div>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is an interesting video - an excerpt from meetings with Abraham, which is group of non-physical consciousnesses talking through Eshter Hicks. In this video Abraham is touching the subject of gay rights.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=zalbarath666.wordpress.com&blog=1047226&post=42&subd=zalbarath666&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish you successful coming winter 2008 Solstice Rites to Mithras, Osiris,  Belial or other Demons.


I self am going to make rite to Belial.
Lirach Tasa Vefa Wehlc Belial
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><strong><span style="font-size:small;">I wish you successful coming winter 2008 Solstice Rites to Mithras, Osiris,  Belial or other Demons.</span></strong></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:small;">I self am going to make rite to Belial.</span></p>
<p><em><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica;"><span>Lirach Tasa Vefa Wehlc Belial</span></span></em></p>
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		<title>sign of life</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I didn&#8217;t have much time to post here lately but definitely I haven&#8217;t dropped this journal. But I wanted to notice that more updates are to find on my on-line grimoire. The spiritual and magickal work is more important for me as outside matters, which from the beginning of this journal should have main [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=zalbarath666.wordpress.com&blog=1047226&post=35&subd=zalbarath666&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Well, I didn&#8217;t have much time to post here lately but definitely I haven&#8217;t dropped this journal. But I wanted to notice that more updates are to find on my on-line grimoire. The spiritual and magickal work is more important for me as outside matters, which from the beginning of this journal should have main point here.</p>
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&#8220;I self cannot comprehend that others cannot comprehend that… How one would want to worship the light, or order, goodness? There is a force inside me, a part [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=zalbarath666.wordpress.com&blog=1047226&post=34&subd=zalbarath666&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I want to invite all those listed as my friends on Zalbarath&#8217;s Grimoire, in case you haven&#8217;t noticed it yet, to read a new entry &#8211; <strong>The Darkness</strong>.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;I self cannot comprehend that others cannot comprehend that… How one would want to worship the light, or order, goodness? There is a force inside me, a part of me, a part of wildness, a part of core of my soul – the darkness.[...]&#8220;</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;[...]Have you stood in a heavy storm? Have you felt its power, its energy and its JOY. It is pure happiness without limits. Flash doesn’t care about the destruction it makes; it just strikes experiencing its potential, its character and delight of existence.[...]&#8220;</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On one of forums I use, an interesting topic has arisen. Someone has written:
&#8220;Ok so a while ago in the news there was controversy about a teacher having sex with a 12 year old boy he might have been a little older but anyway it wasnt forced or anything the boy was willing the female [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=zalbarath666.wordpress.com&blog=1047226&post=33&subd=zalbarath666&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>On one of forums I use, an interesting topic has arisen. Someone has written:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Ok so a while ago in the news there was controversy about a teacher having sex with a 12 year old boy he might have been a little older but anyway it wasnt forced or anything the boy was willing the female was very pretty according to other peoples standards she was in playboy or something and because she is a atractive female they didnt want to put her in jail and because the boy wanted to have sex as well but because of her age and his young age it is illegal if it was a man he would be in jail faster then you can blink.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>My answer was:<br />
I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with it if both sides are willing. Hence she was much older she carried responsibility for protection.<br />
I am not sure about realizing consequences&#8230; As to going pregnant I said than it is responsibility of the older but about psychic consequences&#8230; It really depends on person. I red nonsenses in some books about children staring to discover sexuality in teeny age. It is true for some but others (I am not sure about gender but definitely it is true for males) are sexually &#8220;awake&#8221; since &#8220;always&#8221; that means the age 2+ (some say even younger but of course in a different way, they write that even infants experience sexual pleasure). Of course it is not the same as by older persons but many young boys in an age above 10 would react on so opportunity with a scream of joy as above. I am certain that I would had no problem with it even in a much younger age if the partner would be gentle and indulgent. Besides children sometimes plays with their sexuality spontaneous. It couldn&#8217;t be called straight sex (mostly) but sometimes very close to it. Would it be seen as a crime too? I think it is completely different case.</p>
<p>It is interesting that handicapped children have no social breaks in that topic so when living together they often could be cached on having sex&#8230;</p>
<p>I think that those laws are for protection against abuse because in some cases there would be really better to wait cos psychological consequences are hard to predict but there is no clear and constant borders and human sexuality is probably not enough investigated and covered in cultural codes.<br />
Summarizing, in general I am against treating this as criminal case as long as there is no pressure from any of sides and everything is going by mutual agreement.</p>
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		<title>Satanic Counselor invitation</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zalbarath666</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I found in my mailbox an invitation to new Yahoo group called &#8220;Satanic Counselor&#8221;. Another satanic Yahoo group &#8211; I thought. Let&#8217;s see&#8230; I clicked the link and red the invitation page where is written:
&#8220;Satanic Counseling helps those with severe mental issues
brought on by learning, practicing and studying Satanism.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Today I found in my mailbox an invitation to new Yahoo group called &#8220;Satanic Counselor&#8221;. Another satanic Yahoo group &#8211; I thought. Let&#8217;s see&#8230; I clicked the link and red the invitation page where is written:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Satanic Counseling helps those with severe mental issues<br />
brought on by learning, practicing and studying Satanism.<br />
The fallacy of the dark prince aka Satan and its interdependent<br />
relationship/association with Christianity. Satanism is<br />
another cult of Christianity, an offspring of Christianity<br />
that is co-dependent in order to feed or leach or even better<br />
yep &#8220;psychic vamp&#8221; off of Christianity. It is no wonder why<br />
Satan or Satanism is so VERY UN-ORIGINAL. The &#8220;un-religion&#8221; is specifically confirming what the Holy Bible states is true in<br />
the very beginning while Satan was in Heaven, a mere creature<br />
(not creator) that started a rebellion. Yes a rebellion<br />
centered creature that persuaded a few blooming idiots that<br />
dark was somehow light?!? or enlightenment. Well I have a<br />
news flash for you, Satan was a vehicle USED by God for his<br />
DIVINE purpose for mankind.. that means that tree of knowledge<br />
was CREATED BY WHO? YEAH GOD so the ultimate knowledge comes<br />
from GOD not Satan. Satan is a liar, deceiver, false light,<br />
schemer, plotter, enemy to mankind, blasphemer whose days<br />
are limited.</em></p>
<p><em>Satanic philosophy furthermore confirms that Satanism is<br />
a selfish religion one that will fall by its own evil accord.<br />
Do not be deceived for they are darkened in their understanding<br />
giving way to all pleasures and sensuality having a hard<br />
heart until quickened by the Holy Spirit.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA<br />
Next intrusive Xtian&#8217;s idea. I wonder how many received this invitation. And how many will respond. I&#8217;m thinking about joining for a moment to have some &#8220;hot&#8221; discussion. This could be fun but for that I need more free time so I will wait with it awhile. I&#8217;m sure that they&#8217;re not prepared for discussion without using Bible arguments (they mean nothing to me), which are shallow anyway.<br />
Interesting is that there are some groups in opposite matter &#8211; how to deal with harmful Christian ideology, programing, upbringing. But the latter is definitely well-founded and there is real requirement for existence of such groups but I doubt strongly that there will be any interest from the side of satanists beside urge to have fun of course.<br />
It would be quite amusement if there would join few intelligent satanists so we could make them cry&#8230;<br />
However, judging from the description above there the level of fun will be probably doubtful. Founder(s?) of this group doesn&#8217;t show self from intelligent side. He/she repeats the same boring and shallow stuff as usual. Another person with a mission of saving &#8220;lost&#8221; souls although in this case undercover of healing mental problems.</p>
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		<title>Polish news about moron right wing actvists or politicians &#8211; continuation</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On LJ group Theist Satanism user bookoflies in his post turned my attention to English version of article &#8220;MARILYN MANSON, BEHEMOTH To Be Banned From Performing In Poland? &#8211; June 16, 2007&#8243;. This information is well familiar to me. It is one of many blatantly stupid events in Poland lately, of course thanks to present [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=zalbarath666.wordpress.com&blog=1047226&post=29&subd=zalbarath666&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>On LJ group <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/theist_satanism/profile" target="_blank">Theist Satanism</a> user <a href="http://bookoflies777.livejournal.com/profile" target="_blank">bookoflies</a> in his post turned my attention to English version of article <em>&#8220;<a href="http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&amp;newsitemID=74850" target="_blank">MARILYN MANSON, BEHEMOTH To Be Banned From Performing In Poland? &#8211; June 16, 2007&#8243;</a></em>. This information is well familiar to me. It is one of many blatantly stupid events in Poland lately, of course thanks to present &#8220;beloved&#8221; extreme right wing government.</p>
<p>Below is a fragment of that article:<br />
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<em>Michal Stangret of Poland&#8217;s Metro reports that a Polish anti-sect organization calling itself the All-Polish Committee for Defence against Sects has compiled a list of artists who allegedly &#8220;promote Satanism&#8221; through their music. The list, which will be distributed to various Polish officials in July, will likely result in the artists becoming registered and getting banned from performing in Poland.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;Until now it has been unclear which bands promote these values, and therefore the authorities, unaware of the facts, have allowed these kinds of concerts to be organized, in the process giving these bands a platform from which they could spread their dangerous message. So we decided to help them,&#8221; explained Ryszard Nowak, who heads the All-Polish Committee for Defence against Sects.</em></p>
<p><em>According to Nowak, hundreds of bands who have performed in Poland over the course of the last 20 years have been evaluated before the final list was compiled. Just exactly which artists will be included? The document&#8217;s creators are unwilling to reveal that information just yet but it is almost certain that Polish acts BEHEMOTH and KAT, as well as American shock-rocker MARILYN MANSON, will make the cut.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8220;The index will not only contain metal bands, but also rock artists,&#8221; Nowak explained, before adding that the list will include any groups who promote Satanism or encourage murder and animal sacrifice.</em></p>
<p><em>The document will be distributed to government authorities and various other officials around the country. Some of the local governments are already looking forward to receiving it.</em></p>
<p>My commentary (here I place slightly extended version) which I posted to mentioned above group says:</p>
<p>This Novak is crazy fanatic. His organization isn&#8217;t linked with Catholic church or any official anti-sect organizations. Moreover, they deny having anything in common with him, recognizing him as insane, uneducated, dabbler and potentially dangerous maniac. You can read the official statement <a href="http://www.effatha.org.pl/nowak.htm" target="_blank">here</a> (only in polish language). Alas there are still many naive but influential people who are stupid to give him any credit so he was able to stop few particular concerts few years ago but people weren&#8217;t fully aware at that time with whom they were dealing with. His constantly blatant stupid actions and public accusations makes him more and more ridicule so hopefully it&#8217;s just sensational news but without any consequences. I write hopefully because with present extreme right wing brainless polish government and toady, officious administration everything is possible and so the danger that any most incredibly stupid idea will hold on and will be incorporated into practice.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;This thread is a part of Theistic Satanism Blog Network. All comments must follow <a href="http://www.theisticsatanism.com/net/rules.html" target="_blank">these</a> rules.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>Recognizable?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Jeremy&#8217;s blog there is a post called &#8220;strengthen your gaydar&#8221; in which he writes:
after visting san francisco, and seeing so many gay guys, i think i’m actually better and telling who’s gay and who’s not. its the subtle little things that show- even if the guy is straight-acting.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>In Jeremy&#8217;s blog there is a post called <a href="http://onebyone.wordpress.com/2007/06/14/strengthen-your-gaydar/#comment-207" target="_blank">&#8220;strengthen your gaydar&#8221;</a> in which he writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>after visting san francisco, and seeing so many gay guys, i think i’m actually better and telling who’s gay and who’s not. its the subtle little things that show- even if the guy is straight-acting.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>One of commentators noticed it may be just a matter of fashion and I think he&#8217;s right. Below is a comment of mine which I slightly changed and extended for the purpose of my journal.</p>
<p>Some gays are characteristic but many aren’t. During my study time in the group there was a talk about it and people claimed that gays are always easy recognizable by there behavior &#8211; in meaning that they talk and/or behave in feminine way. That’s funny, because they’ve never realized I’m one too… There is a small percentage who really act that way (to be honest I’m repelled sexually by such types) but most don’t. There are even those who are considered to be classical masculine types with no indication in their behavior that they would be homosexual. However, mosts are more or less between, uncharacteristic on that score, just normal regular guys&#8230; People would be hard surprised if they would knew about gays in their environment. Most live their life unaware about it and threat homosexuals like from another planet. They hear about them but don’t see them. But noticing that statistically 2 or 4 percent of population isn’t straight, even in my former High School with about 1000 learners, there could be gathered a whole class of homosexuals… but in crowds mind it would be a sensation if they were aware even of single case…<br />
There are some characteristics but many gays look “normal” so others would never suspect a thing. However there are some preferences in fashion that could be recognizable but it’s area dependent and nothing sure.<br />
All in all I may tell there isn’t any classical way homosexuals behave &#8211; it’s just a myth. I suspect many (from different reasons&#8230;) would wish this stereotype would be true but luckily it isn&#8217;t and I like it to stay that way.</p>
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		<title>TS BN rules discussion II</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s a response on Diane&#8217;s post.
Diane
The problem is that, if a comment contains even a very brief offhand borderline political remark, even this can have an extreme “red flag” effect on many of the people who have strong disagreements with the political viewpoint in question.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>It&#8217;s a response on Diane&#8217;s <a href="http://dvera.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/zalbaraths-commentary/">post</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Diane<br />
<em>The problem is that, if a comment contains even a very brief offhand borderline political remark, even this can have an extreme “red flag” effect on many of the people who have strong disagreements with the political viewpoint in question.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>If someone will react that way then I agree that the discussion should be forwarded to different thread with different tag but till no one clearly tend to discuss it further I don&#8217;t see reason to forbid mentioning it right away in a first comment (again, if it&#8217;s not broader part of the post). Maybe I place general stipulation on my journal that further responses not holding to TS BN guidlines will be forwarded to new entry with a proper tag but such considerations seem rather like splitting a tiger&#8217;s skin on a living tiger. <span id="more-26"></span>I think that every blog will have its own specific, advantages, disadvantages and own moderation issues so will see what happen. We have main guidelines and that should be sufficient for the start.<br />
I&#8217;m personally not interested in discussing strict political topics hence I though TS-eth-pol wouldn&#8217;t be a group for me but surprisingly I found out that the most interesting discussions and subjects were lead there. I don&#8217;t mind if others are willing to follow the discussion into strict political debate if it holds on cultural level. Even on your Yahoo group people haven&#8217;t been often discussing politic of particular country but rather social, ethical problems or more general, international politic which I find interesting.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>You would not necessarily have to forward the comment. I’ve suggested several alternatives. However, in my opinion, something should be done immediately in response to even the first hint of a sociopolitical digression, to mitigate the red-flag effect, rather than waiting for it to turn into a full-blown political debate.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Like I stated above: we&#8217;ll see if problems occurs.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The first step is a preventive measure: Requiring all new bloggers to engage in discussion about the rules on their blogs, as a way of trying to ensure that they all understand the rules. It probably would be a good idea to have a private Yahoo group for the bloggers as well, so that ongoing issues can be dealt with in a semi-private manner.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s a good idea. However in best case if the TS BN will be very successful , sacrificing so many time for each blogger will be impossible for you but bloggers private group could help us to share with others with moderation problems and how in particular case it was solved.<br />
It would be good if at the beginning there would be more than ten willing bloggers. I hope that most still wait till everything will work properly or for situation where they wouldn&#8217;t have any other alternative. It&#8217;s also possible that quite many people hope your idea won&#8217;t work and nothing or little will change or that everything will settle somehow by itself, without doing much from their side&#8230; It is you who feel the biggest need for change. For most participants  Yahoo groups are not perfect but comfortable and easy solution and they likely prefer it will stay that way.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Note the additional alternative I added at the end.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Most will probably prefer the easiest and the least labour-consuming solution but hence people will be dealing with different moderation issues the solutions will be different for each blogger. I self can&#8217;t say for sure which one I will prefer at the end.</p>
<p>Introduction posts were a great idea to start and roll discussion but now I can&#8217;t imagine how it would work on blog network. The big role played beginners who are excited and starve for contact with like minded people. TS BN could be some kind of challenge but for others it will be simply an obstacle and they will seek other place. Is there any reasonable idea for such potential active group or they must simply work this out?<br />
To lave periodically an entry with invitation to write introductions as comments? Strange idea and probably not too functional. But on other hand TS BN is not to please everybody. It sifts strongly.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>[...]I’ve had much better luck finding bloggers than finding co-moderators</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Because this is something new, fresh and thus exciting. Additionally being blogger moderator one have more freedom and is not so timely obliged as it would be by Yahoo group where regular receiving posts through the day is very important feature.</p>
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